Comments on: The American Way. http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/ The editorial cartoons of Matt Davies Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:24:14 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gary McGriff http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5115 Gary McGriff Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:14:26 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5115 This is from the New York Times. You tell me, Fordman, whose head is in the sand: By WILLIAM GLABERSON Published: July 1, 2008 In the first case to review the government’s secret evidence for holding a detainee at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, a federal appeals court found that accusations against a Muslim from western China held for more than six years were based on bare and unverifiable claims. The unclassified parts of the decision were released on Monday. With some derision for the Bush administration’s arguments, a three-judge panel said the government contended that its accusations against the detainee should be accepted as true because they had been repeated in at least three secret documents. The court compared that to the absurd declaration of a character in the Lewis Carroll poem “The Hunting of the Snark”: “I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.” “This comes perilously close to suggesting that whatever the government says must be treated as true,” said the panel of the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. This is from the New York Times. You tell me, Fordman, whose head is in the sand:

By WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: July 1, 2008
In the first case to review the government’s secret evidence for holding a detainee at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, a federal appeals court found that accusations against a Muslim from western China held for more than six years were based on bare and unverifiable claims. The unclassified parts of the decision were released on Monday.

With some derision for the Bush administration’s arguments, a three-judge panel said the government contended that its accusations against the detainee should be accepted as true because they had been repeated in at least three secret documents.

The court compared that to the absurd declaration of a character in the Lewis Carroll poem “The Hunting of the Snark”: “I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.”

“This comes perilously close to suggesting that whatever the government says must be treated as true,” said the panel of the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

]]> By: Gary McGriff http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5114 Gary McGriff Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:28:25 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5114 There have been hundreds of prisoners released from Gitmo, some held for years. Why would the U.S. release anybody if they were all guilty? The fact is that there were hundreds of innocent people rounded up and put away for years for no reason. And then finally Bush's boys got around to releasing them when they realized their mistake. If that happened to you, Fordman, wouldn't you hold a few resentments against your captors? There have been hundreds of prisoners released from Gitmo, some held for years. Why would the U.S. release anybody if they were all guilty? The fact is that there were hundreds of innocent people rounded up and put away for years for no reason. And then finally Bush’s boys got around to releasing them when they realized their mistake. If that happened to you, Fordman, wouldn’t you hold a few resentments against your captors?

]]> By: Fordman http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5102 Fordman Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:12:02 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5102 Yeah, because all those locked up there were accidently arrested. Look at the last batch of prisioners released from there. Two became suicide bombers, and others were killed in gun fights. They fight as a non formal army but we give the rights of our citizens. Sickning!! Keep your head in the sand Gary, it's easier to sleep that way. Yeah, because all those locked up there were accidently arrested. Look at the last batch of prisioners released from there. Two became suicide bombers, and others were killed in gun fights. They fight as a non formal army but we give the rights of our citizens. Sickning!! Keep your head in the sand Gary, it’s easier to sleep that way.

]]> By: Gary McGriff http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5083 Gary McGriff Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:32:39 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5083 Thanks Maureen. But do you know what is scary? The Supreme Court vote was 5-4 and not 9-0. I'm not sure Justice Scalia is smart enough to sit on the court. His minority opinion is frightening. Thanks Maureen.
But do you know what is scary? The Supreme Court vote was 5-4 and not 9-0. I’m not sure Justice Scalia is smart enough to sit on the court. His minority opinion is frightening.

]]> By: Maureen http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5082 Maureen Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:41:56 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5082 Well said Gary! And I always like your work, Matt! M Well said Gary!

And I always like your work, Matt!

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]]> By: Gary McGriff http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5081 Gary McGriff Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:46:54 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5081 The Supreme Court decision is not "endowing those who are determined to destroy our values and rights with those rights." The decision simply says that we need to prove that the people we have imprisoned are guilty of the crimes we allege. Now it may be true that everyone at Gitmo is trying to destroy this country, but it also may be true that some of them are innocent. We need to prove it one way or the other. And that is what makes us better than the terrorists. The Supreme Court decision is not “endowing those who are determined to destroy our values and rights with those rights.” The decision simply says that we need to prove that the people we have imprisoned are guilty of the crimes we allege.

Now it may be true that everyone at Gitmo is trying to destroy this country, but it also may be true that some of them are innocent. We need to prove it one way or the other. And that is what makes us better than the terrorists.

]]> By: Topgunner http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/comment-page-1/#comment-5079 Topgunner Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:00:46 +0000 http://davies.lohudblogs.com/2008/06/13/the-american-way/#comment-5079 Irony certainly is the centerpiece of political cartoons and commentary. That our Supreme Court would endow those who are determined to destroy our values and rights with those rights is the height of irony; though some may say foolishness. Either way, well done. Irony certainly is the centerpiece of political cartoons and commentary.
That our Supreme Court would endow those who are determined to destroy our values and rights with those rights is the height of irony; though some may say foolishness.
Either way, well done.

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