Um. Tolerance.

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This entry was posted on Wednesday, December 24th, 2008 at 8:17 am by Matt Davies.
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6 Responses to “Um. Tolerance.”

Topgunner December 24th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Merry Christmas Matt—-
you miss the point of Obama having Rick Warren speak at the inauguration. The right wing head cases can’t criticize him for doing so and it distances him from Rev Wright. Obama knows that gays won’t desert him over this, where would they go? Certainly not to the republican side. This is politically brilliant. He gets cover from Rev Wight at little to no cost politically.
Matt Davies December 26th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Merry Christmas to you too, Topgunner.

I absolutely get why Obama’s got Warren doing the invocation. I’ve read reams of arguments pro and con. But I don’t have to like it. I wouldn’t say it was politically brilliant. Shrewd perhaps. I’ve always been wary of shrewd.
Todd Porter December 26th, 2008 at 10:57 am
I think that it is a little disingenuous to say that Pastor RIck Warren is against gays when his stance is that he is against the re-definition of marriage to include gay marriage. Rick and his wife, Kay, have done so many things to help the gay community and also for the AIDS community as well. Sadly, things like this only perpetuate the feelings that people have towards Rick as some kind of a gay basher/hater.

Having said that I do like the overall message of what your cartoon is saying in regards to President-elect Barack Obama being someone who is essentially reaching across the aisle unlike the soon to be previous administration claimed to do, but hardly ever did.
Matt Davies December 26th, 2008 at 11:41 am
I understand Warren is not your garden variety evangelical social thug. But his church, Saddleback, has explicitly anti-gay language in its promo material. Warren has also likened gay marriage to a pedophile’s being allowed to marry a child, which is a cruel and stubbornly intellectually dishonest parallel – One is a predator and a minor, the other is between two consenting adults.
bashea December 27th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
>> Warren has also likened gay marriage to a pedophile’s being allowed to marry a child… < <

A disgusting analogy.

I’m straight, but have many gay friends, men and women, many of them couples, and they are the most loving, caring, decent people I know, and I would choose their friendship over ANY religious zealot.

It seems that Obama is trying to pacify the “other” side, but I don’t agree with this effort. A gay hater is a hater, and there’s no place for them in society.

By the way, the majority of pedophiles are heterosexuals.
Talithon January 13th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Rick Warren is no different than all the other organized religion frontmen – using the bible (or whatever other document conveniently written by man) to exploit, coerce and control people (regardless of their pious protestations of good will). It doesn’t matter who the pick is for the invocation – sadly, they are all the same.

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