Big Brother
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- October
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Many apologies, friends – All my cartoons have been embargoed this week due to a lack of space on our editorial page. The editorial board has been writing candidate endorsements, and well, I can’t take it anymore. So here’s a sneak peek at tomorrow’s deeply ironic cartoon for my close inner circle of blog readers. I would’ve thrown Joe Lieberman in there but I drew it right before he said he wouldn’t support anything that remotely resembled a reasonable effort to repair the ludicrous farce we currently call a health provision system. Oh, and here’s My source for the 72% number to show I didn’t just pull it from that intimate place that people seem to pull much of their self-affirming information these days…
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Yea Matt but those 72% won’t want to pay for it.
I linked to the URL you provided, and poked around a bit.
One of the commentors over there cited a Rasmussen poll where the numbers were 46% pro-public option and 54% anti-public option. ( not 72%).
So we can each editorially select our own “truth”.
What a wonderful, multifaceted universe !
Yellow journalism is not dead Right Matt.
Or as one of your’s and Barry’s Hero Goubles said tell a lie often enough people will believe it.
Yea and we all want a red head and two weeks in Hawaii. At your expense Matt I bet that would come in at 100 % but once the truth came in and you would have to pay 150% it would fall to 10 %.
Maridog…. I T R Y to understand you, I really do !
Matt, how do you put up with people like above, commenting on your cartoons? M-Dawg, ever heard of a history book, or even Wikipedia? Try “Goebbels,” and, hell no, the Obama press corps in the White House is nothing like the Nazi’s chief propagandist (and creep). And you want some truth, kids? I’m painfully unemployed for more than two years, and without health insurance for about as long, surviving off money yanked too soon from my IRA just to keep the bills paid. If I get seriously ill or injured, I’m totally screwed—I can take a number and wait in a crowded lobby of our infamous County General to have some clerk ask me for proof of payment. Nice, huh? And some more truth: Even though I’m jobless and broke, I still pay buku taxes! Go fig!
So, yuck it up about that vile “Gummint Provided Soshulized Meddissin” you so fear. (Funny thing… National health works well in other countries, and they’re not going broke or becoming tyrannies…) But, don’t forget! You’re covered in your private insurance only as long as you don’t make a claim. Lotsa luck, rightwing crybabies!
To John Pirce I can only say….try being lucky
It beats the alternative.
I just finished a Rolling Rock, So now I’m gonna freeform for a while…...
England has a failed health system, as does Canada.
In this case read “Failed” as denoting: “Failed for All”.
Some say America has a “broken” health system.
Yet even illegal migrants are served at emergency rooms.
If one were to look at delinquent childbearing, outside of a man-woman relationship, outside an earning, striving family setting, ...in dire poverty, in addiction, in promiscuity, in criminality….as being outside of society…
then just how “broken” would the system be? Not so broken as now, I’d warrant.
After all, the 19th century had its orphanages, and single mother hostels.
If we begin to imagine that even the insane, the undeserving, the lax, and the criminal deserve the best society has to offer, then what does “best” mean? Are there more ethical ways to look at promiscuity, drug abuse, and serial anonymous sex as other than being “New Families” ? Are they even “Families” at all? When the mother disappears, and the kid goes to live with the grandmother, and joins the Crips at age 9…. is it still “A Family”? Or is it “A Family” only for conniving entitlement purposes, and no other reason?
If “The Best” is mandated even for the undserving dregs, then what does “The Best” turn in to? Can “The Best” disappear into the ordinary, the incompetent, the shunned, and the reprehensible, merely by becoming the entitlement of the dregs?
When every bum is given a Coupe DeVille, of what use is a Cadillac?
Can the unliftable weight of the truly undeserving take even America down?
When Caligula’s horse was made a Roman Senator…
did that act save Rome? Or did it doom Caligula?
When Christ said “The poor are always with us”....
did he mean for us to make them emperor?
Will giving a funded entitlement to Caligula’s horse, turn the nag into Julius Caesar or Jesus?Or just an over-funded fleabag?
Will that funded fleabag lead us to the new dawn of freedom?
Or just eat hay, and poop on us?
Oh, and by the way, don’t call anyone “Crybaby”.
YOU are the one bawling !
A CBS-Times poll is not a credible source. Most polls show nowhere near that level of support for nationalized medicine, and that around 80% like their present plan.
And the Dems don’t need a single Republican vote to pass it. They are just looking for cover.
Other than the fact that it’s entirely baloney, great cartoon.
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John Pierces you can’t find any type of job in 2 years? Nothing? I see signs in my travels that say help wanted. There has to be something you can do even if it is beneath
you. The unemployment must have run out by now. Myself i
would work in a grocery store bagging if i had to for money
and then i’d find another part time job. I’ve been through
it before and i do feel for you but i would never let 2 years pass without some kind of job.
How exactly are Canada and England’s health systems considered “failed”? Aside from you saying it here, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. “Most people like it” is the general thing I’ve heard or read on both of them.
I think Pete that Canada and England have a much smaller population than we do and less free loaders. This country
has a huge population and a massive amount of people on some sort of social service. All this is is another social service and that’s why it won’t work here. In the words of Obama himself he says “everyone must do their part”. That’s the problem, not everyone is doing their part. If everyone was doing their part we wouldn’t need the extra large social service programs we have in this country.
It is a fact that there are long waits in Britain and Canada for vital treatment. Months to get an MRI, months to get surgery. Those who can afford to, come to the US for treatment.
Are you aware that the IRS will have a major role in administrating the public option? Nothing could possibly go wrong there.
People who make up “facts” need to stop blathering them on, speaking of repeating a lie often enough to have perceived as the truth. People who aren’t walking in my beaten-up All-Stars shouldn’t talk down to me about not being able to find a job here, in greater Los Angeles, after desperately searching for such well over two years. And if you think “take two low dose aspirin and pray like hell” is such a great plan, you want to volunteer for it yourself? No? Didn’t think so, Gummint-fearing fussbudgets. But, Don’t Panic! Make just one claim too big for the Insurance Cartel to deem affordable to their precious bottom line and you’ll join me in hoping you’re “lucky.” Gloat while you can… until it’s your ass waiting your turn in an underfunded decrepid county general.
I’ll not wrassle with you Hudson River Valley trailer trash any further. I have more important things to do (like apply for jobs).
the British health system works better than the Insurance skimming scheme we have here, and I am speaking from vast experience. It is also more cost efficient and far cheaper per capita, essentially because costs are aggregated over the entire populace. Look at how much you are paying out of pocket now for health care, and compare it to what British taxpayers shell out. And if you think you get better care here, you’ve bought the insurance companies pitch hook line and sinker, I’m afraid. No system is perfect, but theirs is better for normal working stiffs. Hands down.
Matt,
what no one mentions about your cartoon is that the 170 Republicans in the house can’t “allow” anything. The idea that Republicans are blocking reform is nonsense, the fight is among democrats. Pelosi has a 70 vote majority, she can steamroll the opposition.
The problem for dems. is that the bill is so large and encompassing that it is impossible to please all the competing interests within the democratic party. I still believe that there is a 50/50 chance no bill will be passed this year.If that happens the democrats will have no one to blame but themselves.
J.B. Pierce needs to go flip some burgers at Mickey D’s.
Thank goodness Big Brother is watching out for us, making sure that we don’t have the opprtunity to decide if we want to participate in a government run health care program.
Boy am I ever relieved…
What I have heard from talking to ex-pats and citizens of Great Britain and Germany is that their public health care systems work very well, thank you. If you are wealthy, you can buy into private policies that may (or may not) provide better/faster/more-expensive treatment, but the basic public option provides decent care. People are not wait-listed for necessary treatment; only for non-critical stuff like annual physicals (for that matter, I have to schedule my physicals a month or so in advance).
And, of course, what is being proposed in this country is an optional public insurance system which nobody will be forced to buy in to. Anyone who wants to stick with their overly-expensive private insurance that denies coverage whenever they can get away with it, can keep their coverage, and ignore the public option. So, WHAT’S THE BIG DEAL??? Let us progressives have our public option, and you ostriches can keep your expensive private options!
-jp
Though some areas of Britain and Canada may have waits for some kinds of surgeries, there are also those people in the U.S. who do not get those surgeries because they just can’t afford it. The leading cause of bankruptcy in the United States is due to medical bills, not just because of the uninsured, but also because insurance just runs out.
A friend of mine took a year-long sabbatical from her university teaching job and went to the U.K. There, she gave birth to a daughter. Her hospital bill was something on the order of 400 GBP, and when her U.S. insurer saw that, they paid it immediately. “Only $750 for ALL the doctors, hospital stay, etc.? Okay!”
I don’t understand the conservative movement. They’re unabashedly pro-life… until they discover that they need to chip in. And you know what, even if J.B.P. got a job at Mickey D’s flipping burgers, he STILL wouldn’t have health insurance.
Matt, Matt, Matt.
Your source is a poll from June 09 – well before many
of the details of the public option were known.
How about a more recent poll? Look – here’s one from the Wall St Journal, Oct 28, 2009:
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125667589615011225.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories)
“A government-run insurance plan that competes with private insurance plans—the so-called public option—is now backed by 48%, compared with 42% who oppose it.”
So at best we have 48% who want it – and this poll had some serious flaws in its methodology (oversampling Democrats, etc).
People who say they want the public option think that it’ll either be free, or it won’t raise their taxes. How about wording the poll questions to take these into account? I doubt you’ll get anywhere near 48%.
FYI – Here are some facts about the Pelosi Bill that Matt not know about: http://tiny.cc/BFx1m
Just stuff on how much your taxes will go up, and how the brunt of the $1.055 Trillion cost of this bill will be on the middle class – not on the $200,000+ earners as Prez O promised.
Latest estimates from the CBO say only 2% of Americans will actually sign on to any public option.
2%?? So why are we spending $1.055 Trillion for 2%?
So let me understand Matt’s point in his “big brother” cartoon. Is it that our politicians need to follow polsters and vote for what the majority of constituents want?? MA had a referendum on the ballot to lower our state income taxes from 5.5% to 5%, the majority voted FOR this and it was ignored by the MA “dem” controlled legislature. We also approved (by more than 60%) to institute the death penalty for certain crimes i.e. kidnap and murder of children and killing of police officers. This was voted down by our “dem” legislature. So much for voting for what “the people” want.
Hey johhny B. i’ve been to the emergency room and had to wait behind 20 non paying illegal aliens to get help.
Yes, “change we need now” my azzzz!!!!!
Government is already strangling the system we have now, so for all of you complaining about how bad it is now, look to your government. Their tentacles are ensnared all over the health care system as it is, and yet you look to MORE government to solve the existing problems you complain about. It’s like telling a guy halfway in a shark’s mouth that if he can just get to the cell phone the shark swallowed earlier he can call for help. Utterly ridiculous. Your faith in the moronic politicians, Republican or Democrat, to centrally plan your health care fate is one of the most baffling policy stances I have ever seen and frankly, it threatens this country.
Really interesting post. I’ll visit more often.