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40 Responses to “ID Please”

  1. Boatcat

    My first question to you matt is how did you come to this country?
    did you sneak in??

    and you made the ” enforcer” look like Barry’s Hero Adolf WHY???

    and where in North America do they have the Toughest laws on people coming into the country illegally???

    and If you committed a crime there when you are there Illegally what happens???

    MEXICO AND YOU ARE THROWN IN A HOLE IN THE WALL PRISON WITH NO RIGHTS…..

    To stop people from coming here illegally is wrong why?????

  2. John B. Pierce

    Boatcat, I heartily suggest we deport YOUR whiny, crybaby, teabagging ass. As someone who is a native Californian in Los Angeles (I just happen to be caucasian), I’m surrounded by people who would be openly victimized by Arizona’s new and totally unconstitutional immigration “reform” law; they have the unintentional misfortune of sporting brown skin, black hair, and their names end in an S or a Z. Never mind they were born in East L.A….

    America was NOT founded on the principle that its citizens are compelled to prove their citizenship. Arizona’s new law gives its police to power to stop ANYONE they suspect as being “foreign,” and that poor sap can be arrested for not having proof of his/her citizenship. My passport died back in the mid 80s, and I can’t afford replacing it. It’s a good thing I have an official copy of my L.A. County birth certificate handy, huh?

    And I’m guessing Arizona has plenty of room in its state and county prisons to safely detain all the purported illegals, huh? And ample money to pay for their detainment?

    Boatcat, exactly why are your papers in order?

    BTW, Mr. Davies is a naturalized American citizen. That means the only thing he CAN’T do is get elected president. He chose to forsake his British citizenship to become an American. You should feel honored by this choice.

    But I’d rather deport your sorry ass to Palinland, Boatcat, and be done with you. And feel free to respond, Boatcat, the second you have maturity to consult a Civics 101 textbook or a decent spelling dictionary.

  3. Boatcat

    I am typing this slowly so you can understand it.\
    1.You start off with a Sexual dig at Homosexuals are you always that Bigoted?
    2.I do not care where someone was born. IF THEY ARE IN MY COUNTRY ILLEGALLY GET THE HECK OUT.
    3.Just like the charge that George Bush was spying on Average Americans, and Misusing powers with the Cell phone intercept, and yet in 8 years and with Barry and his thugs and the State Run media, including this RAG looking into the matter not one example of a person having their cell calls listen to for kicks or abuse was found. AND YOU KNOW FOR A FACT IF THEY FOUND JUST ONE EXAMPLE THAT WAS EVEN CLOSE TO BEING QUESTIONABLE THEY WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT TO LIGHT.
    4.Let’s deport all of them when they are caught…
    5.I must provide Paper work to buy a car, a cell phone vote (or register to vote) and a gun and most of them are guaranteed by the Constitution Barry and you Left wing Jerks hate.
    6. Leaving aside for a second the question of citizenship to run for President and Barry’s Fight to keep the mystery alive, my point was that Matt like 99% of the people in America came here the Legal way….. I say come all LEGALLY to America..
    7.And instead of Civics let’s look at history…. FDR put American citizens in wired camps because they had YELLOW skin……. And yet that is look at by you Leftist as great. Or at least FDR as a saint. And let’s not even talk about what ABE did in the Civil War…..

  4. Boatcat

    AND JP-

    Back to my questions>

    Why is it ok for Mexico to have an armed guard at their border, their South Border, and treat all “INVADERS “like the criminals that they are, and not the US,. Oh and the people they are trying to stop from coming into MEXICO are also BROWN SKINNED from the Americas.

  5. John B. Pierce

    You stupid moron. I live around all sorts of long time American citizens who are brown skinned. Nobody’s expecting them to have positive proof of citizenship here in California. And we have immigration woes as ugly and miserable as Arizona. Some of these brown skinned people you so openly hate have ample Mexican ancestry. (My stepmother’s mother’s maiden name was Contreras, and we Yanks stole their land from them after we took over California from the Mexicans in 1849. THEY WERE HERE FIRST. They could have deported OUR invading asses!)

    We are not Mexico. I don’t give a winking damn how they run their border efforts against their Central American neighbors—that’s THEIR shame. We are the United States of America. And that includes Arizona. Deal with it. We’re supposed to be about civil rights and human dignity for EVERYONE. Skin color or “looking foreign” or having one’s name end in an S or Z should have nothing to do with such. And I’m damn sick and tired of crybaby morons who blame immigrants (regardless of their legality) for problems THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT UPON OURSELVES. The illegals are NOT stealing our jobs. (How many dishes have you washed lately?) They are NOT taking wrongful advantage of our social welfare programs. (Unless you really ache to catch drug-resistant TB—you can have my share!) They are not wholesale narcotics smugglers. (A quick, libertarian fix for this: Legalize damn narcotics, just like we have alcohol and tobacco. No? Hypocrite! I guess the Prohibition worked just jim dandy—as long as you were the mafia…)

    You don’t even live in a frickin’ border state—unless the Maplebacks are infiltrating your precious Hudson River Valley from up north! Ohmigawd! How horrible! Polite people who are considerate of others and otherwise law abiding and stuff. How horribly un-American! Deport their Canadian asses!

    Naw… Let’s just ship YOU off to Palinland, ya betcha, and let you starve in your nihilistic maladise.

    We are a nation of immigrants. That’s never going to change. Grow frickin’ up. And, again, please learn to navigate a dictionary, and maybe brush up on your Civics 101. I’ll bet you lunch Mr. Davies knows 10 times more about this country’s history and civics than both of us combined. He has to—it required for becoming a naturalized citizen.

    And I’ll bet lunch you didn’t even know THAT, too.

  6. bOATCAT

    FIRST i KNOW MATT AND HE MAY KNOW MORE THAN YOU ABOUT AMERICA BUT NOT MORE THEN ME…

    1. Hey AH you may not agree with my Facts but we will not be silent any longer just to keep you AH happy.
    2.When you get stopped by police for speeding or braking in or being high on your Rec Drugs (like Coke head Barry) and do not have ID you have a problem.
    3.I hate no one. I only want people to come to my country legally. And when they do not and commit crimes and rapes and are drunk in public I DO NOT CARE WHERE THEY ARE FROM I JUST WANT THEM OUT OF HERE
    4.Right, now if you study the history of the world, something you claim to be an expert on, it would be rather hard to determine who get what being that the world has change hands so many times. Where do you want to draw the line and say we start from here?
    5. So according to you the Mexicans are low life and don’t know any better?? No they have it right protect your border. No papers no entry.
    6.And we will not be The United States Of America if Barry and the open border on both sides of the isle have there way.. THE PEOPLE OF THE US DO NOT WANT THIS CHIT.
    7.What we are supposed to be about is LAWS .. NO PAPERS GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
    8.Civil rights if you are born here. If you are a guest here LEGALLY obey our laws or get the heck out.\
    9.Ask the Irish or Italians who came here about being shut out….
    10.We brought nothing on our self’s except letting them in and by our self’s I mean the jerks in Washington.
    11. They are not Paying taxes either
    12. They are all law obeying people except the ones every week in the Papers who RAPE DRIVE DRUNK AND KILL SOMEONE> and they do smuggle dope ,not all of them but too many of them…
    13.No prohibition work well for PAPA KENNEDY and his Irish mob you Bigot.
    14. I may not live on a border state but there are enough Illegal’s here do deal with. And some even come from Ireland Poland Italy. And I pay taxes to support some of them …
    15. Law Abiding except for the rape of little kids by them ( and why is it always little kids with them ? do they think they are Woody Allen or Roman P ???
    16.NO I AM AMERICAN THEY ARE NOT GO HOME AND CLEAN UP THERE DRUG INVESTED SWAMP.
    17. And Gov Sarah scares you right lol. Oh but you have PIGLOSI AND HILARY.
    18.A Nation of legal Immigrants who waited there turn.
    19.I may not be able to spell but one good thing is it bothers AH like you.
    20. AND AS FAR AS THE TEST FOR CITIZENSHIP… there are things called books you can study for the test….. And just because you pass it dose not mean you believe in the stuff just read Matts writings and you know he HATES THIS COUNTRY and the Rich… AND BY THE WAY HIS LIVES IN A PLACE 99 % WHITE. AND DRIVES A FANCY SPORTS CAR FOREIGN MADE. AND IS PLAYED WELL . MOST RAG JOURNALIST ARE….AND THEN THEY ATTACK THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR A LIVING…LIKE POLICE AND FIREMAN…
    21.And by the way when you can not spell and have what I do , you cannot use a dictionary because you have no idea where to start..I am sorry if this bothers you ( NOT REALLY) But I have to live with it so get over it.. And my hands have scars on them from school to prove it….

  7. Josh

    Matt:

    Oy! Just wanted to assure you that your work does actually inspire INTELLIGENT discourse (although perhaps not in this forum.)

    Keep up the good work. And thanks.

  8. Sara M.

    Davies sinks to another new low with a reductio ad Hitlerum cartoon.

    No wonder he attracts lapdog commenters who berate others as “morons.” Ad hominems are all that remain in the hard left’s arsenal.

  9. Bulldog

    Hey pierce, did you find a job yet you lazy low life
    piece of under the mat dirt? The reason you can’t find even
    a low paying job is because of illegal aliens. You don’t mind though because as long as you don’t have a job i have to pay for you to continue to whine about not having a job
    instead of looking for one. By the way, The Mexicans stole
    the land from indians and we took it from them. It was up
    for grabs. Do you really think Mexican’s are better because
    they STOLE it first. What a dip s_ _ t you are. This is a good law. The federal government has done nothing to stop
    this major problem of illegal immigration so the states
    must do it themselves. I applaud Arizona’s efforts. Town’s
    are being destroyed by the thousand in this country because
    of these animals and nothing is being done. The highest
    law maker in the land (jerk face Obama)not only wants to not punish criminal activity he wants to reward it. He makes me sick. Illegal is illegal. Comprende???

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  11. Bulldog

    Pierce, go into “ojjpac.org” and then click on the section
    that says “victims of illegal aliens memorial”. Illegal aliens take the lives of Americans everyday. Why should a left wing moon bat like you care though. The only thing you
    care about is yourself.

  12. Bulldog

    The only people who should fear this law are illegal aliens who ARE breaking the law, and people who break the law SHOULD be fearful!!!!

  13. TJ

    Matt doesent reply to any comments posted here, because he has no balls…??? !!! *** &&& he is aloof to the reader, he has a poopsier award

  14. TJ

    by the way Matt the half dick and dick head in the sketch did not go unnoticed

  15. TJ

    even eliot spitzer met his political match, maybe your explicit dick and dickhead will knock you out too… I always have relied on the Journal News for safe reading for my children and now I see I cant rely on them any more. Editors, please take this wild liberal thug down now. I dont want my children to view his disgusting penis images embedded in his so called cartoons

  16. AJ

    Wasn’t Matt decrying alleged Tea Party use of the same negative personification of the opposition during their protests?

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

    Josh, join the fray man. Or are you so above it that you can only check in and mock those who lay it out there with passion, right or left? Now go don your black rimmed specs and read Kafka in your campus common area, you lightweight.

  17. DW

    (Sarah being a stupid shill for stupidity again.)

    The irony, it burns – first the right portrays the Prez as Hiltler, then passes unconstitutional legislation asking for papers. These folks clearly don’t know what irony means. Or self awareness. Please find rocks and hide under them.

    Bobcat just has some severe issues. Period.

  18. Bulldog

    DW what about the unconstitutional legislation Obama just
    passed FORCING people to buy health insurance? You didn’t
    mention that. This new law will allow Arizona to enforce the
    federal immigration laws already on the books. I guess Americans wanting their laws enforced is now a bad thing?
    Wake up!!!!!

  19. Steve C.

    I am a huge advocate of our freedoms. I also wish that we had closed our borders after 9/11 and made everyone re-visa. we have a huge Illegal alien problem. Our own kids cannot get jobs because they are taken by the day workers.
    I don’t know about anyone on this blog but in brooklyn i worked everywhere just to make a dime,quarter whatever.. on the book off the books and a teen etc.
    I watch my own kids try to do the same and my biggest fear is that some bastard landscaper with his dayworkers chase them off. let me tell you if that were to ever happen it would be war.
    back to this new policy, there’s such a thing in this country as probable cause… How does one look illegal?
    Now not speaking the language a little after 8 years. yeah well now i have issue.
    Hpwever pulling me over or looking as if i am not from here??? come on that’s profiling and against the law. Arizona just made themselves a police state. Dunces.
    Now a cop can stop you for anything catch you with anything and then say well i had probable cause to think the person was an illegal.
    so you get off the plane with the family to visit relatives .. and bang you are stopped by the cops. and you have to show you drivers license. how many kids carry their brith certificates with them..
    I can understand when you find an illegal you send them home. But giving the cops free reign to just stop anyone they dont know.. oh brother..
    I guess we all boycott going to Arizona.
    do we need stronger immigration laws yes, but this is not teh way to do it.

  20. Bulldog

    I doubt very much Steve C. if the Arizona cops are going to start just pulling people over and yanking them out of their
    cars. What about DWI check points? Do you agree with that?
    Well it looks like he may be drunk so i’ll pull him over. This law will enable the police to enforce the federal laws without getting the feds involved since they are useless in this matter. I doubt if Arizona will become a police state.
    The only people who have to fear this law are people who are here illegally and are breaking the law.How can you have a problem with that?

  21. Tj

    Funny cartoon Matt.

    To Boatcat, you’re missing the whole point. You are too busy on “they’re illegal, get them out” to realize that these immigrants want to be here and want to be legal. If they had the opportunity to get a job and pay taxes they would. The same way someone inevitably in your family line did the same thing, only probably a hundred years and ago most likely from Europe.

    Our Immigration Policy needs reworking.

  22. Bulldog

    If they want to be here legally TJ as you say then they won’t
    mind going back to their country’s and getting to the back of the line behind those doing it legally. You learn this in first grade, if you cut the line you go to the back. It
    really is that simple.

  23. Tj

    Bulldog, Are you aware of the horrendous process someone has to go through if they can’t marry-in or have a business sponsor them?

  24. Bulldog

    Yes TJ i am aware of the process. I worked in construction
    and we sponsored two engineers from India to work for our
    company. The big difference is they did it the legal way. We
    are talking about people who did it the wrong way and have
    no one to blame but themselves for the situation they are in. If you gave amnesty to these people what would you say to the people who have been waiting for years to get into this country the legal way? How would you like to wait in the line at the grocery store and have people cut in front of you for 2 hours while you wait but the manager says to
    you it’s ok you’ll just have to wait. Doesn’t seem fair
    does it? Send them back. End of story.Ask any legal immigrant and they would agree with me.

  25. Tj

    The system is rigged so there is no line for some people.

    Citizenship Through Naturalization : Citizenship is granted to a foreign citizen after he or she fulfills the requirements established by Congress in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). In most cases, an applicant for naturalization must be a permanent resident (green card holder) before filing.

    So to Become a Green Card Holder: A family member or business sponsors you, or you are a refugee.

    Basically everyone else is screwed.

  26. Bulldog

    TJ, ever hear the phrase “life isn’t fair”? As an American
    citizen i’ve been as you say “screwed” many times. Not much
    i can do about it though. Just FYI though i have to pay taxes and obey the laws of this country which illegal aliens do not. Talk about being screwed!!! please tell me
    which laws i can break and which taxes i don’t have to pay
    for “a better life”? C’mon now…

  27. Tj

    Maybe if we allowed them a fair process to be legal they could pay taxes rather than living under the radar and not.

    I’d also rather live in a society where we try to prevent unfairness, rather than suffer through it.

  28. LIttle Sis

    Wow Matt. Your readers are frightening. Isn’t everyone except the Native Indians an immigrant in this country? I thought your drawings were supposed to invite discourse and introspection – but it seems like some of the peanut gallery above are incapable of thought beyond knee-jerk exclusion. Fortunately, their failure to evolve will meet a Darwinian fate (although I suspect they are Darwin dismissive which will make their extinction all the more amusing).

  29. loonatic@hyperbaric chamber

    Lil Sis is pretty frightening also, her peanuts arent even cooked through…and she is looking back at her daddy

  30. Bulldog

    TJ, again I ask, what do you tell those immigrants who ARE
    waiting in line? We already take in half of the world’s immigrants. I think that is more than fair. I can see Little
    Sis has no regard for law and order unless of course something illegal happens to her.

  31. Tj

    Bulldog,

    You are assuming the worst in every situation. While I understand being skeptical and cautious is fine, taking it to the extreme is not. You’re assuming taking in too many immigrants is bad, well how did almost all of America’s ancestors get here? Imagine if we took all the unemployed and found them jobs in, say… manufacturing? A system we lost to China. And you’re assuming Lil Sis has no regard for law and order? Where did that come from? Pessimism and Negativity can be a nasty trait to carry around.

    Imagine if we turned this crisis into an opportunity…

  32. BOATCAT

    This is for Pierce and the others who believe they are all great people.

    WHITE PLAINS — A man extradited from Guatemala admitted in court today that he sexually abused a 9-year-old Bedford girl in a case that created controversy in the Bedford school district in 2006.

    Cesar Joel Sagastume Morales, 31, pleaded guilty to first-degree course of sexual contact with a child, a felony, in exchange for an eight-year prison term.

    He faced up to 25 years in prison on the charge, which was the top count of the indictment.

    Sagastume Morales agreed to serve 10 years of post-release supervision and to be registered as a sex offender.

    He will be sentenced July 6 and faces extradition after he is released from state prison.

    Prosecutors said Sagastume Morales, the boyfriend of the girl’s mother, abused the girl from Sept. 1, 2005, to June 30, 2006. The girl’s mother found photos of sexual activity between Sagastume Morales and her daughter on his cell phone, which he left at her house.

    Assistant District Attorney Laura Murphy said the girl, now 13, is “thriving” and doing very well in school. She said the girl’s famly did not want to “set her back” by forcing her to relive the trauma by testifying at a trial.

    Subscribe to The Journal News

    Bedford police charged Sagastume Morales, a day laborer, in August 2006. He left the country before he could be arrested.

  33. Bulldog

    TJ, back in 1986 we did turn this crisis into an opportunity. President reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens. The federal governmet PROMISED us it would
    never happen again. Look what it got us. 20 million more
    illegals who are mostly unskiled and can’t speak English. They over crowd our schools, don’t pay taxes, close down our
    hospitals because they don’t pay for emergency room service
    and have ruined thousands of towns across the country. Want
    me to go on? That’s opportunity? No thanks. If we give another amnesty, in 5 years we’ll have 10 million more. Where
    does it end? At some point you have to put your foot down
    and say NO MAS!!!I applaud Arizona and hope every state in the nation follows their lead.

  34. Bulldog

    Oh yea TJ, you continue to not amswer my question of what do you tell the immigrants who are waiting in line patiently?If i didn’t know any better i would say by your post that you just might be an illegal alien yourself.

  35. Tj

    Ahh yes, Reagan. One of our horribly over-rated presidents. You can compare his “good deed” to Bush’s No Child Left Behind. A half-assed system that starts with good intentions than does not follow through on anything. Republicans think short-term and that is the problem.

    Regarding your question… I would apologize. And I would tell them that with immigration reform coming up on the table that hopefully the system will improve and become faster for them, as it currently is not a fair system.

    If I had to offer up any ideas to fix it, my solution would be:

    Imagine a system where someone from Mexico or any country can come to America by going through an application process in which they pay. First of all, America would benefit from the enormous revenue from the application process. Second, these immigrants want to come here, and I have every bit of faith that they want to come here so bad they would find a way to pay if it means they legally become a citizen.

    Next, crack down on companies hiring workers off-the-books. Now that all these immigrants are documented, they will have to pay taxes into our system. The same taxes for schools, hospitals, police, etc that we all do. With all of them on record, they will have to pay these taxes and when they file we will need their source of income.

    Obviously with the amount of immigrants coming in, there will be unemployment and lack of work for them. This is where the compromise comes in. Liberals of course would want to support these immigrants with unemployment benefits, welfare, etc. Whereas Conservatives want to tell them to “__ off.” Like unemployment in most states, since they have not put into the system from the beginning, they cannot benefit from it. The only benefits they will receive would be education for their children, to which any states with the now documented immigrants will receive school aid paid for through the new revenue from the application process.

    Lastly, many people are up in arms over new immigrants stealing jobs by becoming cheap labor. I say two things to that:

    1) If a highly educated man cannot compete for a specific job with a less educated non-English speaking person, do you really want that job? And do you think that company is going to prosper long term by hiring the lesser qualified of the two? In the long term the company will suffer if not go bankrupt.

    2) With most of the manufacturing jobs being shipped overseas, imagine if America tried to keep these manufacturing jobs local and put unemployed Americans back to work? Many of these immigrants come here for a better life, and would die (and have died) for the jobs many current Americans do not want.

    So for now I will unfairly benefit once again from being born white. But my heart goes out to all the immigrants coming from the south who just want a better life for them and their children. Coincidentally the same ideal that my grandparents had when they came to America from Europe only a hundred years ago.

  36. Bulldog

    Apologize TJ? that should go over real well with the people
    coming here legally. There is nothing unfair about our immigration system. We take in over half the world’s immigrants. The law’s on the books are fine they just need to be enforced. I do like your idea about cracking down on employers who hire illegals. The problem is enforcement. The
    Dems and Repubs don’t want this. We have e-verify and 287G
    out there to curb this problem bit without enforcement it means nothing. Some come here for a better life but as you well know alot come here to milk our welfare system and the
    rest go on crime waves.Where does the amount of immigration
    end TJ? should we have a billion people like India and China? in my opinion over population ruins everything. As for your grandparents, i’m sure they came here legally from Europe and were screened for disease and criminal background something that is missing today. Sorry my good man but you can’t allow everyone in the world who wants to come here just come here. You can’t help everyone and that’s the reality of it.

  37. Tj

    Bulldog,

    I’m happy we can agree on something at least! And while I disagree on the main issue and solution at hand, it’s always nice to have an intellectual debate, even if we agree to disagree.

  38. Bulldog

    My pleasure TJ. I’m sure we will meet again on this forum
    the next time Matt draws another cartoon in favor of illegal
    aliens which ties right in with his left wing agenda. I’ll
    say one thing for Mr. Davies, he sure knows how to stir things up. We will continue this in the near future my friend.

  39. BOATCAT

    John B. Pierce April 25th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
    I’ll bet you lunch Mr. Davies knows 10 times more about this country’s history and civics than both of us combined. He has to—it required for becoming a naturalized citizen.

    I answered in part……
    20. AND AS FAR AS THE TEST FOR CITIZENSHIP… there are things called books you can study for the test….. And just because you pass it dose not mean you believe in the stuff just read Matts writings and you know he HATES THIS COUNTRY and the Rich… AND BY THE WAY HIS LIVES IN A PLACE 99 % WHITE. AND DRIVES A FANCY SPORTS CAR FOREIGN MADE. AND IS PAID WELL. MOST RAG JOURNALIST ARE….AND THEN THEY ATTACK THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR A LIVING…LIKE POLICE AND FIREMAN…
    Well As was my point , Faisal Shahzad , The time Square Would be bomber, became a citizen in 2009 ,so according to AH J B Pierce , Shahzad must know more about America than all of us…………

    GOOD ANSWER AH PIERCE….

  40. Artisan33

    Who left the nuthouse door open ?

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